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I've seen this happen more than once. "This reminds me of pokemon. This reminds me of Okami. This reminds me of your ass."



Seriously, what do you think you achieve with a comment like that? Is the artist supposed to feel better that his/her oc looks like the fandom you're at the moment fapping to? Most of the artists I know want to be recognized for their own characters and ideas, and most of the time they haven't even thought - or better yet, heard - at all of that thing when the picture was created.

"This reminds me of--" is not a compliment. It's not a critique. It gives nothing new, but it makes you look like a snob who can't accept that when there is billions and trillions of people maybe might think of same kind of idea what someone else thought. If, as a comment, it's something, it's actually an insult of someone's imagination. Or, maybe, the person was actually inspirated about something. Let's say, he was inspirated by some pokemon. He liked the design and wanted to create something own with it. And you know what? THAT IS NOT A CRIME. Being inspirated about something is not a crime. Maybe he liked how Pikachu's ear tips are black, and took that. And how Mareep has a lamp on top of it's tail and took that. Maybe he liked the charmander's design and took a bits of it. Maybe he grew with pokemon and it affected his style. Still, even if it'd be a blatant copy of something, you have absolutely no reason to go and be smartypants. If it's a pokemon, IT IS A POKEMON. If it's not a pokemon, IT'S NOT A POKEMON. If it reminds you of something, the least person to care is the artist.

Grow up today and be a little less of a dick in the internet, thank you. Or, you know, I'm going to castruate you with my own hands to prevent the idiotism from spreading.


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*Kayru-Kitsune May 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Uhhhh. I'm sorry, but this is kind of melodramatic.
There is a HUGE difference between "this reminds me of" and "this is obviously a ripoff of". "This reminds me of" is absolutely harmless. It means your drawing struck a personal chord with their memories. There isn't anything wrong with that - and it's not a commentary on you one way or another. They're not calling you uncreative, copying, or even assuming you know the thing it looks like. That being said, is it really worth pissing about when the MAJORITY of comments aren't "constructive"? You have an open comment section, and people will say whatever they want. This is stupid to whine about. If the only things you want to hear are "you're amazing!" and detailed critique, close comments and open critique. That simple. Otherwise, stop complaining about having 'unproductive' comments.
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~Unikeko May 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
First things first, at no point did I say that I only require "this is amazing" messages or 3 pages of critique-essay. Open comments are so people can do either or something inbetween. If they wanna tell me that the thumb is on the wrong side of hand they can tell me that without having to critique the whole picture as whole and so on. There are good ways to use "this reminds me of", I admit that not all the instanses are bad. But the line between being insulting and being constructive with those comments is thin, and many prefer to not hear it. I know many people who hate it, they create something original and the only thing they hear from masses of people is "is this from this and that game or show?" They're not recognized of because what they did, but rather what people think it is. They're not told is the picture pretty or ugly, is the anatomy wrong did they like the colours, they only know that it struck a personal chord what tells nothing to the artist themselves.

Not to mention "and people will say whatever they want" is not that good thing to go with. Just because they can and will do so doesn't mean that they should do so. Last time I checked calling someone ugly, telling them to do suicide, telling them to do stop things they like and so on weren't acceptable either. And to artists often "this reminds me of" is an insult of the same kind. Of course people are different and take things differently, but if you don't know the artist yourself I'd just recommend not using it.
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*Kayru-Kitsune May 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, maybe there should be an understanding that the comment section isn't always for your benefit, but theirs too. And can they be blamed for asking? If something bore a strong resemblance to something else, I'd certainly be curious as to whether it was on purpose or not.

Again, you're being melodramatic. The problem with saying those things is that they're destructive and malicious. Talking about likenesses is not.
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~Unikeko May 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well, you're entitled to your opinion as much as I am to mine. As both of us share very different view on the matter for both of our sanities it's better not to just keep arguing and repeating the same things again and again. Just try to remember if you want to be nice to other artists, there are people below this conversation telling either agreement or disagreement, where former has been on more popular side so it is not something that only bugs me.

My only point of that example was that they're (well, not all but most) insults, and that's how the "this reminds me of" feels too. An insult. You don't probably see or feel it this way and it's fine. It's your opinion.
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*Kayru-Kitsune May 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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=Crazdude Apr 24, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you for writing this journal! I think I may respond with comments like this by sharing this journal. Way easier than steaming about it or writing something on the fly.

I've been burned by this but also worse where I get a vague comment on an art piece saying: "Why does this remind me of this?" and a link to a picture that I'm left to assume is something the commenter believes is similar enough to my work (in concept, composition, characters, mood, theme, etc) for me to see. What am I supposed to do with this information? It riles me up because it SEEMS like they're saying "Have you seen this? I think you copied it!" The messed up thing is that no, I didn't see it. And no, I didn't copy anything. And no, it really doesn't look like my art, characters, etc. Just because there are two characters fighting in a digitally painted piece? C'mon. But of course, they didn't realize that they were coming off as accusatory and merely wanted to share a similar piece. *sigh* Gotta love those random, unintentional mind-f*ckings!

I trust that some of these people may learn to interact better and some will leave the site all together. But the sad thing is that this will continue to happen with every new wave of immature, inexperienced, poorly-socialized young-adults roaming the internet. I realize that it's up to the us to handle them as they occur: don't give in, don't let it bother us, and try to speak sanity (if the situation allows - how will they learn if they don't hear how their attitude is unappreciated?) Otherwise, hiding the comment or blocking the user works nicely too.
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I actually have a journal about this a while ago, but it was more or less me myself feeling as though my characters are artwork weren't very 'unique'. This thought came about through the amount of times people kept saying "This reminds me of my character!" or "This character reminds me of '_______'!!" (fill in the blank with any character really)... and even if it's not intended to do harm, it can and will if said in a certain context.
Now, a person can create a white fox character and give it red swirly markings... and, if you're someone like me (lol) who hasn't really seen or had much to do with the game 'Okami', when someone comes up and says "This looks like the fox character from Okami!" or "nice picture of 'thefoxcharacterfromOkami'!!". In reality it's meant to be an original character, and if someone were to take the time to actually compare your character and the character they're accusing it to be... they'd see the obvious differences. Still, people tend to be too lazy to do that kind of research so in the end if it looks like it, then it is it.
Oh you can try to explain that is not in the artist's description, in big bold letters, but people won't read. Why read when you can just as assume? If they're wrong sometimes they'll apologize for their ignorance and failure to read, but other times they'll argue and try to prove the character is just a copy cat/knockoff of an 'official' character. The response varies once their fault is pointed out...
What I find most entertaining is that those who claim to be 'fans' of these franchises can't seem to tell the official characters apart from people's OCs lol... For such hard up fans devoted to 'Okami' somehow every white wolf with red markings is Amaterasu :XD: or 'Wolf's Rain' fans are insistent that every white wolf with yellow eyes is Kiba. You'd think they'd know the characters they're devoted to enough to know the difference... ;I
It's painfully obvious... they don't.


To put out a little 'vent' here (because this has actually happened to me pretty recently with a character I've just put out)... the only thing I find incredibly annoying about the whole situation is when people don't bother to read the information that's put there so they DON'T confuse a character for something/someone else. The 'Artists Comments' section is there so the artist behind the work can write out a little bit of information on the artwork or character, to fill in the blanks or stave off confusion. But alas, people don't bother to read it... and instead proceed to bust out with the first assumption that comes to mind in most cases.
"Look! It's Ezio as a kitty! 8D" when it clearly says "This is not Ezio as a cat" is just one of the examples I can present at this time.
Although honestly, it doesn't bother me too terribly that people confuse a character for something or someone it's not meant to be/represent, but I guess what makes it peeve worthy is that once it's been announced by someone in a comment that the character looks like someone/something else... everyone else will see the same darn thing... and soon there's a million and one comments saying "Cute Ezio kitty! 8D"
It just makes a person face-palm to no end... especially when the evidence of their idiocy is right in front of their faces (multiple times in bold lettering) so they DON'T assume or get confused.

But I digress... the main reason I think people get mad or upset about when their characters are confused, claimed, or mistaken for another(s) is because in the end it really makes them feel as though they're not doing good enough. That a design or concept they must feel proud of or enjoy is essentially seen as a knockoff or duplicate of another(s) character. Then, as I said, once it's announced all of a sudden everyone who looks at the image/character will see the same thing simply because someone pointed it out once. It's like the ripple effect. You throw the stone in not thinking the ripples will stretch across the pond, but then they do. It's unintentional for the most part, but...
No one wants their idea or concept to be compared to that of another person (or persons) but in the end... it's just how people think. They compare things to what they've seen before.

Long comment is long... and possibly repeats itself a lot.
Forgive please? ^^;
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~CantStoptheRobot Dec 13, 2012  Professional Filmographer
It's fine to mention that it reminds them of something.

It's not an insult.

Maybe you should be grateful for the opportunity to compare your work to something else. Exposing ideas you may have done better or worse. You could even contact the person with the similar idea, and work together in the future.

This just makes you sound whiny, over-sensitive and imperious.
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~Unikeko Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, as it've been proven in the comments, it is heavily based on the artist. Some think it's compliment, some are okay with it, some hate it. But as I've also said, even when it can be used as a compliment, it is very difficult to use and if you don't like pissing people off, you might want to avoid it just in nutcase.

To be quite honest I don't really see anyone ever contacting anyone who they've said to have similiriaties with, especially since often times it's about original characters reminding someone about a popular show/game whatever. When you've never experienced it yourself you don't quite see it as a bad thing, but when you post a picture and the only thing 50 people say is "Hey this reminds me of Okami" it gets really old and fast. And no, I'm not saying that they should post only something like "omg cool beautiful :)", because that's what the fave button is for.

You're free to take a hint or move on - that's the freedom of the internet, baby.
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~CantStoptheRobot Dec 13, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Hmm. Well, whenever I see my characters echoed in something famous that I had or had not already seen, I always take it as a humbling experience, to inspire me to think deeper and find new ways to make my character an individual. This seems like a much more productive attitude than just "don't say it."

I have contacted people who draw stuff similar to my own work. So far, the only result has been a mutual "<3"-fest, or ignoring me.

Thanks for responding to my message thoughtfully, by the way. Very refreshing.
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